Real Estate Spotlight: Knox White, Mayor, Greenville, SC

Knox White, Mayor of Greenville, SC

Mr. Knox White was born in Greenville, South Carolina. A graduate of Wake Forest University with a B.A. in History and the University of South Carolina School of Law he is a partner in the law firm Haynsworth, Sinkler & Boyd and specializes in immigration and customs. Mr. White was elected to the Greenville City Council in 1983 and served as an at-large member until 1993. In 1994 he was elected Mayor and has served as Greenville’s mayor for the last twenty-five years, a longer tenure than any other mayor of Greenville.

During his time as Mayor of Greenville, Mr. White oversaw the development of several projects that transformed downtown Greenville from a place where crime, prostitution and drugs where prevalent during the 80’s and 90’s, into a place where people today can live, work and play. In 2020 Greenville was recognized as the #6 Best City in the U.S. according to Conde Nast Traveler’s 2020 Readers Choice Awards.

Mr. White’s most notable redevelopment accomplishments in downtown Greenville include:

  • River Falls Park
  • Redevelopment of the Historic Poinsett Hotel
  • Fluor Field: Downtown Baseball Stadium

I had the privilege of meeting Mr. White for coffee when I was in Greenville in August. Our mutual friend Steven Wernick, who lives in Miami as well, discovered Greenville around the same time I did and was equally impressed with the city. Mr. Wernick’s curiosity about the downtown Greenville’s redevelopment led to a friendship with Mr. White. Mr. White was gracious enough to spend almost an hour with me talking about downtown Greenville’s transformation. The little time I spent with him I found him to be energetic, present and he seemed like a man that deeply cared about his community and wanted to share Greenville’s unique story. As busy as he is, Mr. White took the time to meet with me. The famous southern hospitality was in full effect and I am grateful to have him as a new visionary friend whom I can learn from. Seems like we could all use more visionary elected officials in this world like Mr. White who unselfishly puts their community first.

The Visionary

Mayor Knox White background info

The City

Greenville, SC
Population: 71,000 (est.)

Liberty Bridge at Falls Park in Downtown Greenville, SC

A Conversation With Mr. White

Stoic Urbanist: What is a regular day for you? Do you have a morning routine?

Mr. White: Mornings consist of an exercise routine at least three days a week. Usually I’ll do some cardio, mixed in with some weight training, which I’ve been doing for as long as I can remember.

I tend to divide my days into proactive and reactive meetings. Mornings are reserved for proactive meetings which I tend to schedule with neighborhood leaders, entrepreneurs, developers, etc. We usually meet for coffee.

Afternoon meetings are usually reactive meetings which means I’m trying to put out a fire or resolve issues that have come up.

Stoic Urbanist: What motivated you to run for public office?

Mr. White: Current events were always an interest of mine even at an early age. In sixth grade I volunteered for my first political campaign. I was elected Homeroom President, as well as Student Body President, in high school. I attended college at Wake Forest University where I was class President and Student Government Vice President. I always pushed myself to think outside the box and took pride in working with others to implement new ideas. After college I went to Washington D.C. to work on Capitol Hill as an aid to Rep Carroll Campbell (later Governor of South Carolina).

While attending high school in Greenville I worked on political campaigns and volunteered for organizations that aligned with my values and interests at the time. Throughout the 1970’s I would regularly take the bus to downtown Greenville to volunteer for the campaign I was working on. Campaign headquarters were almost always located downtown because it was the least expensive real estate in the city. I witnessed the decline of downtown Greenville firsthand as shopping malls with department stores started opening on the outskirts of the city, which led to the decline of retail and empty storefronts in downtown. At a young age I was very aware of the changes happening in our city.

Stoic Urbanist: What was the tipping point in downtown Greenville that set the city on its new path to becoming one the best cities to live in the US?

Mr. White: The removal of Camperdown Bridge and the opening of Falls Park on the Reedy was the tipping point for downtown Greenville’s revitalization. Every city has an asset or assets that need to be cultivated. Greenville’s greatest asset was Reedy Falls and the river itself. Falls Park on the Reedy quickly became central to Greenville’s identity. Shortly after inaugurating Falls Park, we began to see evidence of tourism coming to downtown, something we had never seen before. The opening of Falls Park exceeded everyone’s expectations and has really helped drive the growth of our city center.

Another overlooked, but central piece, to downtown’s boom was our commitment to build mixed-use developments which led to a critical mass of housing and people living in our central business district. In order to build this critical mass, Greenville worked with pioneer developers that shared our vision. We worked with developers that shared our same vision and partnered with them on city-owned vacant land with the understanding that they would build housing with retail on the ground floor and housing above. By bringing people and “more eyes on the street” to downtown it helped make the central business district a safer place to live, work and play. With a critical mass of people working and living downtown, new retail establishments began to open in order to support the needs of residents and employees that commuted to work daily to downtown.

Stoic Urbanist: Tell us about the sixty-acre park Greenville is in the process of developing just outside of downtown Greenville. How did this idea come about?

Mr. White: The City of Greenville is turning 60 acres of neglected lowland just west of downtown Greenville into Unity Park. At the park’s center will be a 10-story, lighted observation tower. Another large-scale pedestrian bridge will span the Reedy River where hidden wetlands will be put on display. There will be a playground with water jets, a gathering hall, vast lawns, and business and recreation inhabiting historic warehouses along the Swamp Rabbit Trail.

The city spent decades assembling land in the area that had long been a dumping ground for the city. The African American neighborhood that was adjacent to the neglected river area where the city for decades operated a jail, landfills, and even tossed junked vehicles! 

The area has a history — a not-so-good history. It was a throw-away zone. This is a part of healing in the community and the park’s name speaks for itself. The city of Greenville will also build hundreds of affordable housing units surrounding the park which will blend with the existing fabric of the neighborhood.

Future Unity Park site in Greenville, SC

Stoic Urbanist: If you didn’t live in Greenville, what other city would you consider living in and why?

Mr. White: I do love the Raleigh-Durham area. The area has great schools and parks. I’m also a big fan of Boulder, CO. Spending time in the mountains and nature is a big draw for me.

Stoic Urbanist: What will be the biggest challenges/growing pains Greenville will face in the coming decades?

Mr. White: As people and businesses continue to move to Greenville, transportation and affordable housing will become Greenville’s toughest challenges going forward. The city of Greenville is working with developers to come up with creative affordable housing solutions and we will likely expand our current downtown form-based code to other areas of the city. Downtown Greenville does not require parking for new developments and we would like to extend this parking policy to other neighborhoods, which in theory, should make housing more affordable if lenders are willing to lend on projects that don’t require on-site parking. Housing and transportation go hand in hand. There is no easy solution, but we’re doing what we can to make it easier and less expensive to build so that housing remains affordable. By encouraging density, mixed-uses and walkability our hope is that our residents will rely less on their cars.

Stoic Urbanist: What hobbies or interests do you have?

Mr. White: The city is my hobby and a passion of mine. I love exploring, walking and observing things on the ground for myself. Observation is extremely powerful and we can all learn a lot from taking the time to observe our surroundings and being present.

Stoic Urbanist: What is the book (or books) you’ve given most as a gift, and why? Or what are one to three books that have greatly influenced your life?

Mr. White: Reimagining Greenville, Building the Best Downtown in America is a book that I wrote with John Boyanski. It’s probably the book I have gifted the most. I’m very passionate about sharing downtown Greenville’s story with others and it’s a story that needs to be shared so other cities can learn from our mistakes as well as all our successes.

I’m a voracious reader, particularly non-fiction, biographies and history. I have a strong interest in China and Chinese history and have travelled to China 14 times.

The book that has probably had the biggest impact on me and provided a path to reimagining downtown Greenville is The Death and Life of Great American Cities by Jane Jacobs. If you’re a city leader, developer or planner this is a must read book.

Our Towns: A 100,000 Mile Journey into the Heart of America by James Fallows is another one of my favorite books about American cities.

Stoic Urbanist: What is one of the best or most worthwhile investments you’ve ever made?

Mr. White: Downsizing our suburban sprawl style home and moving to a zero-lot line, new urbanist master planned community, just outside of downtown Greenville. I’m now just a short drive from Greenville’s central business district. We have a city park and business center that is integrated within our community. It feels like living on a college campus. It’s walkable and I’m always running into my neighbors and having spontaneous conversations. The best part is there is no more yard work to be done! With the sale of our suburban sprawl home, we were also able afford a small second home in the mountains. My wife and I love to hike and to be in nature, so we try to get up into the mountains on the weekends whenever we can.

Weekly Commercial Real Estate Family Beach Bike Ride

Future CRE pro in the making

Every Saturday morning my son and I ride from Miami Beach to Bal Harbor and back. It’s a short 6-mile ride and we usually stop to take a dip in the ocean. Typically we spend about 2 hours or so biking and lounging on the beach on Saturday mornings. If any fellow commercial real estate parents would like to join us please email me @ [email protected]

Meet up location: 7300 Ocean Terrace Parking Lot

Time: Every Saturday @ 8:45am. Pedals-up @ 9am

Distance: Approximately 6-miles

Bicycle: Mountain or hybrid bike. We ride gravel along the beach in Surfside and Bal Harbour

Things to bring:  CRE thirst and knowledge, snacks, water and bathing suit. 

Urban Daddy: Strippers & Playgrounds

Source: Emma Lee/WHYY

Need help understanding why I could walk into Scarlet’s with a fistful of fifties, yet I can’t take my son to my local playground. Covid-19 restrictions for adult entertainment venues were lifted a couple of weeks ago, yet my 7-year old son and I can’t go to playground because Miami Dade County leadership has decided that playgrounds are deemed unsafe and are therefore closed. How are indoor strip clubs safer than outdoor playgrounds? Please help me understand the logic here Mayor Carlos Gimenez. For our children’s (and parent’s) sanity let’s open up our playgrounds now please.

Biking, Commercial Real Estate & Coffee: Gravel Grinding on Sunday Mornings…

Biking, commercial real estate and coffee are 3 of my favorite things and I suspect there are other commercial real estate professionals in Miami that also have the same correct life priorities. Every Sunday morning I head out for a little bike ride and figured it would be great to squeeze in some CRE networking while riding. 

My typical route is below. Pedals up at 7:15 am from Miami Shores and then head to the Rickenbacker Causeway to ride with some roadies down to Key Biscayne and then back to Virginia Key for some mountain biking. On our way back to Miami Shores we could hit Zak the Baker in Wynwood for a caffeine pit-stop. Feel free to join for the entire ride or for just a segment of the ride. Typically I end up riding between 40 to 50 miles. Let’s grind some gravel and work on some CRE deals together!

If interested please email me at [email protected]

Brightline and the Future of Mobility and Development in Florida

Henry Flagler arguably brought real estate development to South and Central Florida in the late 19th and early 20th century when he extended rail service from St. Augustine south to West Palm Beach and eventually to Miami and then Key West. When he arrived in Florida in 1885 he began construction of the 504-room Ponce De Leon Hotel in St. Augustine. Realizing the need for a sound transportation system to support his hotel ventures, Flagler purchased short line railroads in what would later become known as the Florida East Coast Railway. He quickly understood that rail spurred development and it allowed people and goods to travel from the Northeast to the Sunshine State. His hotel was an immediate success because of the rail connection he built.

After nearly half a century of interrupted passenger rail service, the choo-choo is making a comeback in Florida. The prospect for transit oriented development (TOD) has never been better for Florida and intercity and commuter rail service will likely have a dramatic impact on Florida’s future development much as new rail service did over a century ago in our state.

With pancake flat topography, a population of nearly 22 million people and a relatively high population density of 376 people per square mile, Florida is well suited for intercity passenger rail to succeed in our state. The 4 largest MSAs in Florida have populations of well over 1 million people and are far enough (but not too far) that driving isn’t always a viable and efficient option. In addition, we already have large pockets of population density living along Florida’s east coast, which also happen to live within close proximity of the Florida East Coast Railway (FEC) corridor in South and Central Florida and to a lesser extent North Florida. If driving isn’t an option due to time and distance, our only other available option is air travel. Intercity passenger rail service can be competitive with commercial air travel if total air travel times are less than 3-4 hours. (Total air travel time includes: driving to the airport and arriving at least an hour before takeoff to give enough time to go through TSA, walk to the gate, taxiing to and from the gate, flight time, deplaning, walking to the airport exit and grabbing an Uber or taxi.)

Source: Wikipedia
Source: Wikipedia

Brightline & Intercity Commuter Rail Expansion in Florida

Brightline is a private company that has been operating intercity commuter rail service on the FEC rail line between Miami, Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach since January 2018. All Aboard Florida, which operates Brightline, is owned by an affiliate of Fortress Investment Group LLC, a global investment management firm which is publicly traded. As of November 2019, it is the only privately owned and operated intercity passenger railroad in the United States and currently has an annual ridership 885,000 (2019).

Other Routes & Destinations

Orlando

Brightline is aggressively looking to expand its current service to other cities. Expansion of service to Orlando International Airport is expected by early 2022. The Orlando station is located just south of the airport and has been substantially completed already, though unused for more than a year and now houses Brightline Trains staffers. Brightline Trains is currently building new tracks that will eventually connect the Orlando Airport Station to the FEC tracks on Florida’s East Coast. The 35-mile stretch of new rail corridor from Orlando International Airport to the Florida East Coast Railway near Cocoa in Brevard County will cost $4 billion and is being privately financed. The Brightline route will parallel S.R. 528 east to a new bridge over the St. Johns River, cross Interstate 95, go under S.R. 528 twice and then connect with Florida East Coast Railway at U.S. Highway 1. The section from the airport to near Cocoa requires 30 new bridges; the stretch from Cocoa to West Palm Beach will need 28 new bridges.

Pre-Covid-19, Brightlin predicted that within several years the annual passenger count would grow to more than 6 million passengers, with about half of those going to or coming from Orlando’s airport. The base, one-way fare for the three-hour run from Miami to Orlando, will be priced at between $60 and $100. Brightline is aiming for the sweet spot of distances too far for driving and too near for flying.

Aventura, Boca Raton & Port Miami

In October 2019, Miami-Dade County Commissioners pledged $76 million to build Aventura station at the Aventura Mall in Aventura, Florida, between Miami and Fort Lauderdale. The Aventura station is expected to be completed in the Fall of 2020.

In December 2019, Boca Raton was officially chosen as an infill station site to be connected to Mizner Park via a pedestrian bridge. Brightline proposed constructing the station and rail infrastructure while the city would cover access and zoning requirements. The Boca Raton station is expected to be completed in late 2020.

In October 2019, Brightline also announced plans to start building a station in PortMiami in 2020.

Commuter Rail: Wynwood, Design District, 79th Street, North Miami and FIU North

In 2020, it was revealed that Brightline Trains was planning a commuter rail service to complement the higher-speed intercity line and is seeking $350 million to build five train platforms between Downtown Miami and Aventura. Trains would run between Miami Central and Aventura with five train platforms in Wynwood, the Design District, 79th Street, North Miami and FIU North.

Future Expansion

Brightline has expressed interest in adding a station on Florida’s Treasure Coast and another on the Space Coast between West Palm Beach and Orlando. In August 2018, the company asked cities in the area to submit proposals for station locations. Fort Pierce, which last had passenger train service on July 31, 1968, has expressed interest. The city of Stuart has also indicated that it will be negotiating for a potential station.

Brightline has indicated that Stuart is the most likely location for a Treasure Coast station, and that Cocoa would make the most sense for a Space Coast station, both because of proximity to Port Canaveral’s cruise lines as well as for positioning for future expansion to Jacksonville.

Tampa

Brightline has been in negotiations with the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) to lease right-of-way along the Interstate 4 corridor. Brightline was the only bidder to submit a proposal to construct an intercity rail line along Interstate 4, which has been designated for federally funded high-speed rail. This would be utilized for an extension of the line from Orlando International Airport to Downtown Tampa. Potential stops along this route are the SunRail Meadow Woods station, Walt Disney World, and Lakeland.

Jacksonville

Rumors have also swirled about an eventual extension to Jacksonville, Florida. The existing tracks are currently used for freight and the existing right of way is already under ownership of Fortress Investment Group. An extension to Jacksonville would not be a hard lift for Brightline.

The Future of Air Travel in the Era of Covid-19

Few industries have been hit harder than the aviation industry. According to The Economist by April 2020 global passenger numbers had fallen by 94% year on year, to level last seen in 1978. The industry has lost well over $250bn in revenue in the last 6 months.

In May 2020 the International Air Transport Association (IATA) estimated that passenger numbers would return to pre-pandemic levels by 2023; seems fair to say that without a vaccine this prediction looks wildly optimistic. More recently, IATA has also predicted that only 30 of the world’s 700 or so airlines would survive the crisis without government help. Carriers are already starting to fall like dominoes. Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline, Virgin Australia and LATAM, Latin America’s largest carrier, all filed for bankruptcy in the last several months. Looks like this may just be the beginning of airline failures.

The End of Low-Cost Flights

With low cost carries going out of business and less competition, we will likely see consolidation in the airline industry. For obvious reasons this does not bode well for travelers and we will likely see rising ticket prices. As airlines look to cut costs and streamline operations we will likely see less direct flights as well, which in-turn, will make air travel a longer and more expensive experience. Brightline may stand to benefit from this predicament if they are able to provide more regular service and a less crowded/socially-distanced travel experience then air travel.

Source: US High Speed Rail Association

Florida Growing

Florida is already one of the fastest growing states in the country. With no state income tax, great weather year round and a relatively low cost of living, Florida, at the very least, will likely continue to grow at a similar pace. If anything, Covid-19 may even accelerate migration from the Northeast, Midwest and Latin America. We’re already seeing strong demand coming from these regions since our crisis began.

Mobility and Development in Florida

According to some of my sources in the 305, Brightline will likely not restart service until the Orlando connection is complete. Covid19 has clearly impacted Brightline service and a large number of Brightline staff were laid off when the company suspended service indefinitely back in March. Even with this huge setback, I’m optimistic about the future of rail travel in Florida. In addition to the significant investments that Brightline has made, there are large contributions being made by cities, counties and even the State.

Brightline will soon connect to the commuter TriRail service in South Florida via Miami Central Station and Brightline will eventually connect with commuter SunRail service in Central Florida. Very quickly, we can see that a Florida rail network is possible if we can fill in a couple of crucial missing links which are now within reach.

Transit Oriented Development opportunities are ripe for the picking in Florida if cities can get their zoning right around train stations. Eliminating parking requirements, encouraging mixed-uses and increasing density around stations will lead to more attractive development opportunities for developers to build, healthy, walkable communities. Covid-19 may have slowed the broader urban renewal development patterns that urbanists have enjoyed during the past 15-20 years, but the mass-exodus to suburbs that we read about in the newspaper headlines will likely be short lived.

In the meantime we will need to learn to adapt and live with the virus until a vaccine is discovered or we reach herd immunity. Life will likely eventually return to some semblance of “normal”, but there will also be permanent changes for the better. In the long term Florida seems well positioned to benefit from the significant rail infrastructure investments that are being made in our state. Transit oriented development opportunities should logically follow.

Giddy-up and hop on the TOD train!